I know someone who is A.W.O.L from the U.S. Coast Guard as of today. In two weeks, she'll be considered a desserter. They have an idea of where she went.Canada. So what is the difference between the 2 and how long can I expect this person to sit in jail when she gets caught? She was trying to get out on a medical discharge. Apparently it was taking too long for her. She hasn't been quite right since basic training. She's only been in a few months.
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I'm sorry to hear your friend is having issues. It will be fine.
Your getting alot of wierd answers on this question, allow me to brief you on military law and ethics.
AWOL is separate from Desertion. Desertion can only be charged after 30 days absence and the prosecution can proove she had "No Intent" on returning to military control; the 30 day issue is "presumptive law" taking effect as after that time period it makes it easier to prosecute for the accusation of Desertion.
It is Highly Unlikely your friend will even be charged with Desertion as 99% of such cases are refered as AWOL which carries a maximum sentence of a Bad Conduct Discharge (BCD), six months confinement and forfieture of 2/3 pay for six months; this can only be issues by a "Special Court" and constitues a Misdemenor crime only.
It is also Highly Unlikely she will be court martialed due to her Application for medical discharge and MEDICAL CONDITION. HIGHLY UNLIKELY as they are not in a position to punish ill personel.
I recommend she do two things today, if you can tell her: one, telephone her command and tell them she is ok and will be back within a few days and two, telephone or see a JAG defense lawyer and a psychiatrist or psychologist and get an evaluation ON PAPER for her defense lawyer.
She can make arraingments to return to base by obtaining "stragglers orders" from almost any military command. Or, she can simply drive back and report to her own C.O.
Her C.O. has Total Control of her, period, Period...
Her C.O. can elect to do Nothing, send to to the base Shrink. I personaly doubt if any C.O. of a disturbed Sailor would be thrilled to arrest a patient with her issues.
Her remaining away will not work, she will be cut off from her family, always looking over her shoulder and the F.B.I. will actually hold an arrest warrant for her within 45 days at best.
Again, have her contact her Commander, let the Commander know she "screwed up" and then iron out the details for her return. The C.O. would be happy to know that she has enough respect for the command to call and come back.
After that it will only get better.
Be advised I have JAG experience and this is the normal way to deal woith these issues; it will be fine.
it sounds like you are not her friend. i personaly have no love for desserters...but you need to keep you nose to yourself. the military will find her and will punish her no matter how long it takes to get her back into custody.
She had better turn herself in. The longer she is AWOL the worse it will be for her. Canada is not so friendly and welcoming any more to deserters.
Sounds like she's eligible for a bad conduct discharge.
A.W.O.L is ''absent without leave''....She is a Deserter because she went A.W.O.L during a time of war. The highest punishment for being A.W.O.L during a time of war is death. But it usually doesn't happen like that. If they catch her, they might just force her to go back to her unit, while the prepare for court marital, where she will definitely lose pay, rank and face jail time, but there isn't any way to determine how much jail time she will face without knowing the whole story. Instead of running away, she should have spoken to her chaplain, the chaplain could have helped speed up the process, or referred her to mental health.
Good on her. I would hate to work for the millitary. Especially someone who works for the facists in the US government. Shame, really that one of the most beautiful countries in the world is under the control of the -cough- Nazi s -cough- 'Republicans', yes.
Maybe is the Democrats were in power, the world would be put into better hands. Better ethics and all...
This may sound drastic, but claim extreme injury on your mates behalf for him or her. If they do not believe you, or want proof, MAYBE... Sustain an injury on purpose...
Sorry, I am not very helpful. =[
The penalty in war time for desertion is execution by firing squad. There are other legal means to fight an unlawful order, but desertion is not one of them. In your friends case I see a dishonorable discharge and maybe some time in prison. She needs to turn herself in and I think under her circumstances she will just get the discharge. If she goes back now she will probably get reduction in grade, resrtiction, and a fine. Please tell your to face the music and everything will work out.
sounds like you want to turn her in , is she your ex-wife? you seem to know a lot of info are you harboring the fugitive? maybe you should turn yourself in for treatment.better yet go enlist and take her place on those pretty boats with flags waving next to the machine guns, and take swimming lessons in case your boat is shot up by drug smugglers trying to sell their stuff to your kids. she can deal with her own mistakes , go ask the JAG how long this could take..
Saturday, October 31, 2009
Public records, how to find them?
how do i view public records for a person, exceeding and including finding out if there is a warrant
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It's a secret...
but there are ways..
call the courthouse in the county in question and just ask them. its public record and they will tell you. if you want to go down there you can get copies of the information for a small fee. dont use the online public record searches, they are rip-offs and usually not accurate.
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It's a secret...
but there are ways..
call the courthouse in the county in question and just ask them. its public record and they will tell you. if you want to go down there you can get copies of the information for a small fee. dont use the online public record searches, they are rip-offs and usually not accurate.
Public notory - charges?
has anyone been to a public notory to certifield documents. anyone know how much it costs?
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I was sent a document which had to be returned to America eighteen months ago. My signature had to be witnessed by a public notary and neither the bank nor any other authority were acceptable. I had to produce my passport. A waxed seal was fixed to the document after I had signed and two witnesses, one being the notary, the other his secretary, countersigned the document. It cost me thirty five pounds. Clearly charges vary so it might be worth your while phoning around your local solicitors. Incidentally, not all solicitors in UK are notaries, so that also has to be investigated at the same time.
Go to your bank. They will do it for free. Your signature must be witnessed in front of them.
I had to have a document certified in 2004, I searched all over for someone to do it, including a bank and post office, eventually I was told that I would have to go to a solicitor to have this done. The cost at that time was 拢40 for 1 document. The cost may have gone up since then.
I was used to going to a public notery (which are abundant in the statesand doesn't cost all that much to have it done usually $5-10 sometimes less sometimes more depending on the type of document and how many documents you need certified) and was shocked to find out that only the legal profession is able to certify documents.
If it is a photo your doctor or bank can do it. You can also call your local court they should be able to tell you where you can get your documents certified
About a decade ago, they charge as little as $ 5 per document. Now it would be safe to assume at least about $15-$20/document.
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I was sent a document which had to be returned to America eighteen months ago. My signature had to be witnessed by a public notary and neither the bank nor any other authority were acceptable. I had to produce my passport. A waxed seal was fixed to the document after I had signed and two witnesses, one being the notary, the other his secretary, countersigned the document. It cost me thirty five pounds. Clearly charges vary so it might be worth your while phoning around your local solicitors. Incidentally, not all solicitors in UK are notaries, so that also has to be investigated at the same time.
Go to your bank. They will do it for free. Your signature must be witnessed in front of them.
I had to have a document certified in 2004, I searched all over for someone to do it, including a bank and post office, eventually I was told that I would have to go to a solicitor to have this done. The cost at that time was 拢40 for 1 document. The cost may have gone up since then.
I was used to going to a public notery (which are abundant in the statesand doesn't cost all that much to have it done usually $5-10 sometimes less sometimes more depending on the type of document and how many documents you need certified) and was shocked to find out that only the legal profession is able to certify documents.
If it is a photo your doctor or bank can do it. You can also call your local court they should be able to tell you where you can get your documents certified
About a decade ago, they charge as little as $ 5 per document. Now it would be safe to assume at least about $15-$20/document.
Public notary services?
how long is a notary good for?
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A Notary Public has his/her commission in Wisconsin for 4 years (I'm not sure how long it is in other states). The comission can pretty much be renewed forever. The document that was notarized is always valid assuming it was actually notarized during the Notary's commission.
A notary renews his/her notary public status when necessary. It's not a matter of how "long is a notary good for".
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A Notary Public has his/her commission in Wisconsin for 4 years (I'm not sure how long it is in other states). The comission can pretty much be renewed forever. The document that was notarized is always valid assuming it was actually notarized during the Notary's commission.
A notary renews his/her notary public status when necessary. It's not a matter of how "long is a notary good for".
Public Lewdness?
If you are walking in a park and really need to use the bathroom and the choices are "do it on yourself or in a private section of the park" where you think a cop may not be, why should you get a ticket or be charged with public lewdness if there are no bathrooms nearby and you really need to go, honestly?
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What a conflict it is.When I used to drive 75 miles to work and back.sometimes there is no choice but to find an isolated place to relieve yourself.
Unfortunatley some have made it to a point that a city I used to "frequent" madi it a lewd act if you are caught and a misdomeanor.but try and see if you can use the local resteraunt or gas station..."customers only"...what's a person to do?
Last time I checked, there is no "right to take a whiz in plain view" under the Constitution.
Yes, I believe that in this day and age you can expect to be ticketed for ANY slight infraction. The Cities are hungry for money. No revenue/no jobs/no raises. They will not tell you there is a so called "qouta" but be assured that there have to be some type of "measures" in place to guage productivity. Bottom line is always about money.
You answered your own question...it's a PUBLIC park, I am sure they have PUBLIC restrooms. My kids play in the PUBLIC park, and we don't want to see your wee wee by accident because you don't feel like finding the PUBLIC restroom.
Well, how do you think women handle that same situation? Pee in the woods?
Grow up.
I assume that at some point in your life you've smelled stale, stagnant urine in the air. Imagine hundreds, thousands of people peeing in public, hidden or not, because they couldn't find a restroom, and what the "public" areas would eventually smell like. Having said that, risk it if you dare and have no other options. "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, yeeeeaaaaahhh.(don't do it.)"
You should get a ticket because the officer thinks you committed an offense.
A ticket is NOT a conviction. Go to court and argue it before a judge.
This is a matter of state law, of course, and so you will likely have 50 different wordings, but as one example, Indiana Code 35-45-4-1.5(b) says "A person who knowingly or intentionally appears in a public place in a state of nudity commits public nudity, a Class C misdemeanor."
If you quietly and persuasively tell the judge that you were not intentionally nude, but that you sought out a secluded corner of the park to avoid public nudity, and were principally intending not to soil your clothing in a manner that would offend public sensibilities, the judge might agree that you're innocent.
If you walked up to a tree for privacy, it would strengthen your case.
in some places it is legal if you are far enough from a public restroom. in new orleans if you were homeless and got caught peeing in public you would be arrested for public masterbation and put on the sex offenders list, at least it was that way before katrina now they might be a little more excepting of the homeless.
Doesn't NYC cite for "public urination"? If no one other than the cop saw you (especially no kids) perhaps you can plead it down, first offense.
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What a conflict it is.When I used to drive 75 miles to work and back.sometimes there is no choice but to find an isolated place to relieve yourself.
Unfortunatley some have made it to a point that a city I used to "frequent" madi it a lewd act if you are caught and a misdomeanor.but try and see if you can use the local resteraunt or gas station..."customers only"...what's a person to do?
Last time I checked, there is no "right to take a whiz in plain view" under the Constitution.
Yes, I believe that in this day and age you can expect to be ticketed for ANY slight infraction. The Cities are hungry for money. No revenue/no jobs/no raises. They will not tell you there is a so called "qouta" but be assured that there have to be some type of "measures" in place to guage productivity. Bottom line is always about money.
You answered your own question...it's a PUBLIC park, I am sure they have PUBLIC restrooms. My kids play in the PUBLIC park, and we don't want to see your wee wee by accident because you don't feel like finding the PUBLIC restroom.
Well, how do you think women handle that same situation? Pee in the woods?
Grow up.
I assume that at some point in your life you've smelled stale, stagnant urine in the air. Imagine hundreds, thousands of people peeing in public, hidden or not, because they couldn't find a restroom, and what the "public" areas would eventually smell like. Having said that, risk it if you dare and have no other options. "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, yeeeeaaaaahhh.(don't do it.)"
You should get a ticket because the officer thinks you committed an offense.
A ticket is NOT a conviction. Go to court and argue it before a judge.
This is a matter of state law, of course, and so you will likely have 50 different wordings, but as one example, Indiana Code 35-45-4-1.5(b) says "A person who knowingly or intentionally appears in a public place in a state of nudity commits public nudity, a Class C misdemeanor."
If you quietly and persuasively tell the judge that you were not intentionally nude, but that you sought out a secluded corner of the park to avoid public nudity, and were principally intending not to soil your clothing in a manner that would offend public sensibilities, the judge might agree that you're innocent.
If you walked up to a tree for privacy, it would strengthen your case.
in some places it is legal if you are far enough from a public restroom. in new orleans if you were homeless and got caught peeing in public you would be arrested for public masterbation and put on the sex offenders list, at least it was that way before katrina now they might be a little more excepting of the homeless.
Doesn't NYC cite for "public urination"? If no one other than the cop saw you (especially no kids) perhaps you can plead it down, first offense.
Public intoxication..does the judge ask questions?
i got arrested on 5/26
im just now having my "pre trial hearing" on 7/26
is the judge going to ask me any questions?
im from texas.
i was 17 when this happend. i am now 18.
i know im "underage" to be drinking..
BUT..i did NOT drive home.
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Of course he is going to ask you questions.
And your answers will probably influence your sentence.
If you plead "guilty", the judge won't ask you any questions.
Your attorney will best defend you. If he's a good attorney, he will get you the best deal. He's your attorney, be honest with him so he'll have a good defense for you and ask him all the questions you want to know. That's what you pay him for.
im just now having my "pre trial hearing" on 7/26
is the judge going to ask me any questions?
im from texas.
i was 17 when this happend. i am now 18.
i know im "underage" to be drinking..
BUT..i did NOT drive home.
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Of course he is going to ask you questions.
And your answers will probably influence your sentence.
If you plead "guilty", the judge won't ask you any questions.
Your attorney will best defend you. If he's a good attorney, he will get you the best deal. He's your attorney, be honest with him so he'll have a good defense for you and ask him all the questions you want to know. That's what you pay him for.
Public aid questions?
I'm kicked out of my house and can't go back home.
I applied for Public aid, and I'm wondering how much do they give you for spending and food money.
I'm 17, no children, nowhere to go, no job.
if anyone can let me know, that'd be great.
Thank you
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I would have to know more.. like what state you are in, etc. But Public Aide normally only gives you enough to SURVIVE.. most individuals homeless on public aide still remain in shelters. Email me bojenkins1@yahoo.com with more info and I would be more than happy to help.
Instead of depending on public aid, why don't you go and get a job of some sort? There's nothing to hold you back from trying, and you will have some sort of roof over your head for at least a few hours out of the day...
I applied for Public aid, and I'm wondering how much do they give you for spending and food money.
I'm 17, no children, nowhere to go, no job.
if anyone can let me know, that'd be great.
Thank you
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I would have to know more.. like what state you are in, etc. But Public Aide normally only gives you enough to SURVIVE.. most individuals homeless on public aide still remain in shelters. Email me bojenkins1@yahoo.com with more info and I would be more than happy to help.
Instead of depending on public aid, why don't you go and get a job of some sort? There's nothing to hold you back from trying, and you will have some sort of roof over your head for at least a few hours out of the day...
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